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Again, more shots on target, more touches inside the box are not stats that really matter if you’re totally toothless. And we were totally toothless in that game. Stockport looked far more dangerous than us and scored three goals comfortably.
Not sure why you’ve ignored having no money with regards Ainsworth and changing the team’s style dramatically to something more pleasing with regards Blooms. Actually, scratch that, I do. It’s because those are the key points that undercut your argument.
If someone is trying to play more entertaining football with players that have spent ten years playing an agricultural style I’ll cut them some slack. If someone takes that incredibly entertaining and successful style and form drops off a cliff due to a switch to a flat back five with absolutely no attacking intent I’m less inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I’ve already said that I think what he’s trying to implement this year looks better, but because of how poorly he managed last year and his record at Sunderland he’s got little credit in the bank if it doesn’t go well.
Anyway, this is going round and round, so let’s leave it. You and Dan “James“ Rice are welcome to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears and point repeatedly at isolated stats while comparing apples and oranges.
Why don’t we just agree to disagree and get behind Dodds and the team tonight. It should be a relatively easy three points so let’s enjoy the win.
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Didn’t he take over from Waddock and therefore the playoffs was his first full season in charge?
Can’t believe this is all rambling on still tbh, mostly seems to be “You lot don’t agree Dodds is the saviour therefore everyone who came before is shite’“ if you just look far enough.
Odd really as nearly everything I’ve seen on Dodds is still hopeful he’ll do well and admitting he seems like a nice bloke trying his best.
Borderline can see why DRC and Shev couldn’t be arsed with it all but it’s mostly one long term loon still bitter from his interactions with the trust…and almost everything he has said is pretty obviously incorrect.
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Ainsworth had (and has his style set in his DNA ) . He employed it with us , then at QPR , same at Shrewsbury , and now at Gillingham . I am convinced he would employ it at Arsenal . He has said as much in podcasts . It is who he is and what he values in the game . It ain’t about finances . It does work , he proved that with us . It does however invite more criticism than adulation outside of Adams Park . It ain’t easy on the eye and when it isn’t working it is just bloody awful . I think sometimes people on here think the narritive is typical of all Wycombe fans . I can assure you it is not and many think like I do . I have met them . Yours sincerely Danny boy James Rice.
Nobody has actually said the football was all great over a decade but the results are clear, you are arguing with yourself to distract from everything else.
It was always an amusing sideshow though when managers said they knew exactly how we would play after a loss, often when we didn’t because we didn’t always play the same. They would declare it a massive victory if they snuck a win and bitch about gamesmanship if we dared score from a corner or defend well.
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Who are you arguing with here? I agree with all that you’ve said above.
Like Big Sam, his style of football is accepted when winning but as soon as it stops being successful it could easily lead to the sack. It was frequently unwatchable as we ground out a 1-0 win using feigning head injuries as a key tactic.
I said when he went to QPR it would be a disaster as you can’t play the “little Wycombe punching above their weight” card at a bigger club. And so it proved.
Ainsworth’s style of play is the reason that I cut Blooms slack. He was trying to make us entertaining - and it took a while, but he did.
Dodds isn’t doing that. He took an entertaining team and tried to make it dull. Hence - like Ainsworth - he gets less slack. Because if you’re making my team much worse to watch AND adding “don’t worry about the style being unwatchable, it’ll also be unsuccessful” that’s not something I’m really looking for.
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A lot of what we’ve seen over the last six months isn’t “easy on the eye” assuming you can keep awake!
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That’s exactly the issue.
Taking an entertaining team and asking for time because “you can make the most exciting Wycombe team since the early 90s unwatchable quickly, but can’t promise results immediately,” is a pretty tall ask.
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Well that is where we disagree . He did make it dull last season . He admitted he chose to make us hard to beat and it was indeed dull . Who knows what would have happened if he had chosen a different way . Even if Bloomfield had stayed nobody could say with certainty how it would have ended up .
Injuries to Harvie and Kone , as well as the loss of Morley , would have impacted Bloomfield too . There have been passages of play in all of the games so far that are far from dull and boring .
He clearly wants to get to the point where they can employ these examples of change for 90 minutes . If you believe him when he says last season was not his style then you really should be giving him longer than a pre season and three league games to prove himself . If not then is he lying ?
Fink ( who I believe will be crucial to his success) has been injured and we need to replace Kone . Leahy is no good as a number 6 . We need to get this sorted too .
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Can we infer from this that you think Leahy is good, but just not as a number 6?
Yes . I do suspect he is going to be a square peg for a round hole as time goes on though .
I’m contemplating a block. Can the “hidden” replies be read? I’m puzzled as to how the feature works.
I have to say, not just to tantalise @Wendoverman, that I found myself in broad agreement with you on this occasion. Refreshingly more nuanced and balanced.
As I recall..he took over from Waddock and prevented relegation. I came back as an ST his first season in charge…which ended in Torquay. Next season was playoffs…unless my faculties are failing.
Agree with everything else in your post, though!
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I have to admit that putting yourself in a bubble where everyone is generally in agreement is a tempting move and will clearly be more of a harmonious experience for very obvious reasons .
The problem is of course , you are far less likely to get the balance you claim to crave . More of a self created reality really .
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Some textbook projection going on here.
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Interesting. I risk reading too much into your last paragraph, I know, but there was a loud kerklang in my head as an old penny dropped. Didn’t realise he was 55, must admit, but it’s scary how quickly time passes when you’re ancient.
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Chill out - if we all had the same view and don’t challenge each other it’d be a boring forum. For what it’s worth, I absolute loved every minute of GA when he was with us and at the time he was the perfect manager. I also wouldn’t argue with the fact that under Bloomfield we pretty much had the best statistics in the whole country. I don’t actually care about either of them though because they’ve gone. The only point I was making was that both took time to learn and develop their team (neither were successful straight away) and Mike Dodds deserves that time too - simple as that. Just because more money has gone into this team doesn’t necessarily make it easier. When MD joined Wycombe, none of the players at his disposal had chosen to play for him and that’s challenging and stressful in any organisation. His team also wasn’t as strong as the team Bloomfield had. I’m sure it can sometimes be more difficult to walk into a successful environment to impress those around you than an environment where you’re at rock bottom. In terms of managing what he’d walked into (although on the outside it may have looked straightforward) was probably really, really hard and I still think he’s done admirable job and has been given more slack than he deserves). He’s still a relatively young manager who is only going to learn and improve.
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