Message For Dan Rice

Quick message to Dan Rice from me.

Don’t read any of those posts in this thread.
Hysterical nonsense from people who thought promotion is given and not earned, that managers come fully formed and not able to learn and evolve, that young players don’t have dips in form and confidence and that other teams just turn up to be beaten.

(Sorry to the odd sensible poster on here. The generalisations are harsh on you)

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Out of interst , how do you conclude that the bottom of league 1 is our level when we have made the play off three times in the last six years and finished 10th last year ?

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That’s pudding it in very stark terms

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All that I’ve seen is people complaining about the style of play and being overly cautious and eye-bleedingly horrible to watch.

No one I’ve seen expects us to get promotion. However, it’s hard to take watching the best football I’ve seen a Wycombe team play in my 30+ years as a fan only to end up playing some of the dullest and worst football I’ve seen.

And that’s all on Dodds. And he’s shown no interest in changing his approach despite his tactics utterly destroying our chance creation.

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Can’t honestly say I’ve heard that version, normally they sing …

I don’t care about Bloomfield,
He don’t care about me,
All I care about
Is Adam Lowry

I think your analysis is pretty spot on. However, the question still stands:

Imagine a Bolton player’s speculative long shot hits a defender wrong footing the keeper and goes in. Based on how we were playing do you think we manage to score two goals to win?

I don’t. Setting us up not to concede means we have no way back into games. As demonstrated at Reading, home to Charlton and now at Orient.

We’ve created 0 good chances in all those games combined.

And I think even though he’s attempting to play a little more aggressively he’s changed the players’ mindset from attack to defence. There’s no other reason for us to have 8 players behind the ball against 3 attackers when we’re chasing the game and need two goals.

We could still be playing now against Orient and wouldn’t have scored.

Could no agree more .

I sometimes watch the Stockport game to cheer me up. Found myself doing it Saturday night when I got home. We were far from perfect in that glorious period, but we took the game to our opponents and we kept teams on their toes.

I remember in the Oct-Nov period, we would throw the kitchen sink at teams for the first ten mins or so before things settled down.

It seems that ever since teams starting showing us respect, we setup different which does coincide with the Christmas period/Dodd era.

But then, after all these months, it’s almost as if we forgot who we were.

I can’t put that all on Dodds, yes he needs to take his share of the blame pie, with the negativity in the formation and tactics, but when the leash is let off, these players seem a shadow of themselves and I don’t know if that’s all on Dodds or a confidence/frustration thing.

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That’s exactly it. It’s like he’s spent so long coaching the attacking intent out of them that now even if he tries they can’t do it anymore.

It’s no good leaving Kone isolated for a couple of months to destroy his confidence and then expect him to suddenly play like he was just because he now has a couple of players somewhere a bit nearer to him.

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The thing with the academy being the number one project, with the aim of blooding prospects into the first team quickly, is - is Mike Dodds the sort of head coach who wants to promote youth?

Yes he has a great track record elsewhere but look at his record here: Pattenden - nowhere to be seen. Skura - nowhere to be seen. Low - dropped for Sonny Bradley. Kodua - a few minutes off the bench. Back - disappears after one match (someone on here says he’s injured but not sure that’s been said by anyone official). Berry & Lowry - limited to cameos then dropped after they play well.

Now I’m not saying I disagree with all those decisions. But the only young players who play consistently under Dodds are Humphreys and Kone, and they were both fully established before Dodds rocked up. I’m not sure Dodds fully delivers what his bosses want in a head coach in this area, at least.

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With respect here:

Skura: Is he ready for the fight of an end of season promotion campaign?

Low: Can count himself unlucky, but Bradley and Taylor have been undroppable since playing together.

Pattenden: One that I’d love to see back in the team.

Back: Superb debut. Can only assume he’s injured.

Berry / Lowry: Not shown enough for me. Lowry has a few nice touches and passes, but his off the ball play against Orient was extremely poor. A silly yellow card challenge, and rarely in the right place when needed defensively. Berry came on Vs Shrewsbury and looked like a rabbit in headlights.

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I LOVE this and it is so true. Do we know that Bloomfield was “pushed” though?

Adam haha

I agree about Bradley, but one thing Bloomfield used to do was pick players based on the opposition. The Trophy final when he surprised us all by starting Lonwijk and Forino centre back to counter the pace in Posh’s attack. It worked, we didn’t give them a clear cut chance.

Dodds is like - “ah you played well, I can’t drop you”. Irrelevant of the opposition. Bloomfield used to go on about “energy”, and asking players questions like “why did you do that, what was the next move in your head?”.

At the moment I just see a team being put out with no thought behind it. What was the thought behind

  • playing Reach RW vs Reading
  • playing Pattenden vs Birmingham and not since
  • playing Back vs Bristol Rovers and never seeing him again
  • bringing on Berry and Westergaard vs Wrexham. Why were they in the squad at all if they are not up to it?
  • playing Bakinson vs Charlton. It was unfair on him, he hasn’t played!
  • Why haven’t we protected Kone like Bloomfield did? “We have to be careful with Rich”

I just don’t see the reasons. For all their faults, we had a connection with the Couhigs.

We are all bickering because we don;t know the REASONS for these decisions. Come out and tell us your thinking, or tell us that you fucked up - that’s fine. We all fuck up. If you want us to be “together”, TALK TO US!!! JUST SOMETHING PLEASE.

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@Twizz Between the first and second lines some now shout “see you next Tuesday” or a word to that effect if you know what I mean.

Wow, really!?

Agreed re Gareth and relegation and all the boo-boys were calling for his head, as they were Bloomfield’s. Ironically a couple of weeks a go loads of Luton fans were saying that Bloomfield was out of his depth - not so many now. Dodds has been in charge for 2 mins - why can’t people give him a bloody chance. One thing’s for sure if the owners do the opposite of what the loud mouths are crying for, they can’t go far wrong.

Don’t you remember the 0 0 draw against Bolton, the 0 1 loss against Huddersfield, the 2 1 loss at Charlton. All were poor performances. I think we scored 8 goals in the last 6 league games under Bloomfield - hardly spectacular. Yes we did score 4 in the preceding game against the Shrews. But let’s be honest I think we played better against them under Dodds and it was a freak result that we didn’t win convincingly. Yes I wish we’d kept Bloomfield as some of the games under him were the best I’ve seen since Gorman. But fair play to him he’s kissing another badge now, gone to another club who probably have more than doubled his salary, have a bigger budget and a bigger supporter base (although as he has already found out just as fickle as ours).

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Oh :persevering_face:!

I think you’ve got me wrong here. I’m not a ‘everything was perfect under Blooms’, I’ve said multiple times here that Dodds should get a pre-season (regardless of Playoffs) just like MB did when he took over from GA and we were in a PO position then.

My gripe is the team knew how to attack, and since the Dodds era, that attacking instinct has certainly dried up, certainly against the top teams. It’s kind of gone the other way, which I reference, as soon as we started seeing teams show us respect, we’ve taken a step backward and gone, ‘no, no, after you’.

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