I thought you might be a climate change denier type, in which case this would have been an example about wanting to keep the status quo.
But, for another example, to keep the current status quo around the average age of the country you’d have to do some radical things. Keeping the status quo isn’t in-and-of-itself moderate.
No defacto blasphemy there then?
So what’s the answer to my original question, Chris? Do you think cultural attitudes towards women in some Pakistani Muslim communities are a legitimate thing to discuss when looking at the grooming gangs? And would raising those concerns make someone Islamophobic?
The grooming gamgs are awful. But, the Muslim bit, isnt overly relevant apart from being user as a way to tarnish Muslims.
I dont bekieve any of the raping, drugging or drinking was remotely related to religion. It was just a group of awful people who happened to be Muslims. Uts like seeing othet grooming gangs and calling them an English grooming gang
There are plenty of awful humans, irrelevant of their race.
There might have been a cover up by the Catholic church, but I’ve never heard that external agencies were complicit. Talking about grooming gangs is definitely not allowed in certain circles and most Labour MPs voted against a public inquiry. It’s only the work of activists that you despise that has brought it to the table.
Some people use quotes so they can say ‘Im just telling you it’s what people are saying’.
Having looked at the Gasroom do you think pretending not to understand or purposefully misinterpreting what someone says to make a point is only a preserve of the wokeflakelefttcommunist posters, Mr Kim?
I think you’re wrong, goodbye.
(See I used a comedy quote there…)
Pretending not to understand is very much a left wing thing at the moment. The right prefer to make things up.
Funny that because I’m sure I’ve already read the Casey report and the Jay report.
Perhaps the focus should be implementing recommendations rather than constantly getting more reports into the same thing.
Unless you have good reason to suspect that many stones have been left unturned.
Sadiq Khan’s grooming gangs comments being a case in point here.
Attitudes to women, yes, but why limit it to Pakistani Muslim communities? Attitudes to women amongst the police seems pretty important to the grooming gang enquiries, with victims not being listened to.
The problem isn’t discussion of the role of cultural attitudes which is a valuable piece of the puzzle, it’s the picking out of one specific thing in order to weaponise grooming gangs to foster anti-Muslim sentiment. It’s not done out of respect for the victims or as a good faith attempt to improve safeguarding and prevent children being harmed in the future.
The problem is the cover up. Nobody’s tried to cover for offenders from other backgrounds. If there hadn’t been a cover up, the whole thing would never have become the political hot potato that it has.
The ethnic/religious aspect was baked in from the start: otherwise the would have targeted Pakistani Muslim girls. Twenty years ago, I worked in childcare (just before scandal came to public prominence) and one of our girls came home covered in Arabic script (presumably Punjabi). My Pakistani colleague was so horrified by what it said, that she wouldn’t read it to me.
Wycombe should play three at the back with Fink up front
What do these Pakistani Muslims believe the age of consent is?
Oh boy, you are just the best
Again, why does it matter that they are Muslims? Im pretty sure that rape is a sin within Islam.
They are mot acting within religion. They are a group of awful people.
Im pretty sure they are all aware of the age on consent and fully aware tgey are committing crimes.
Didn’t watch Spotlight?
I didn’t.
