25 / 26 Tour de Season Attendance Prediction

After the Burton Away Game - Match 20

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Welcome to the stable part of the season - so far as this competition is concerned. From this point onwards Forecasters closest ten predictions are averaged to form their score. The most anyone can improve their Leaderboard score in any one match is a tenth of their tenth best score - the one shown in the green column. The darker the green, the bigger is the tenth best prediction and so the greater is the maximum possible reduction in leaderboard score with the perfect prediction.

So many congratulations to @DevC who enters the ‘time of stability’ with substantial headroom at the top of the Leaderboard. It is now easy to work that the lead is the eqwhuivalent of very slightly under six points.

Many congratulations to @Monza who with 26 games left has the closest prediction of the season so far.

There isn’t much movement in the table this week because there were not many who were close to the attendance at Burton. Congratulations to @wwfcblue and @Twizz who are both currently standing in their highest positions on the Leaderboard so far this season.

A note for @Loakes - your nine predictions mean you don’t have a score at the moment, but a tenth will restore it.

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Oh my word, top half of the table

I must be under new management - sorry, head coach.

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After the Bolton Home Game - Match 21

Many congratulations to @DevC who will be top of the Leaderboard at Christmas. Contgratulations to Forecaster of the Week - @williwycombe whose score of 47 means a return to second place and @DevC ‘s being still just under six points by the finest of all possible margins. By my reckoning if @williwycombe manages to exactly predict the attendance of the Luton and Plymouth away games his score would be 58.20 and he would lead by a single predicted person and that is assuming @DevC does not get within 113 for either match.

Anyway congratulations to the leading trio, @DevC. @williwycombe and @a40 - gaining early membership of the sub 100 club at Christmas and now guaranteed to keep that membership for the rest of the season.

Incidentally two perfect scores would put everyone down as far as myself in 13th into the sub 100 club in time for the New Year. Unfortunately that group does not include myself,

Congratulations to @wwfcblue who continues to climb the table, this week’s eigth position being the highest so far this season.

There were some small errors in last weeks Leaderboard scores - a mis typing meant that I added in eleven columns into the average to make the leaderboard score rather than ten. I use the 11th column to work out a best 5 games average, so everyone’s score was a bit less than it should have been, but the actual reduction was broadly proportional to each person’s score so I didn’t spot the error last week.

Lots of people’s score will have been put up a bit by the correction, mostly by a similar amount to those close by on the Leaderboard and positions on the Leaderboard will be unchanged, but for a few people - those who already have five very good scores in the bank - the correction will be a bit more than for close competitors on the Leaderboard and you may have lost a place or two. I have looked and @Commoner is one of the people in this position. To those people I can only say sorry for the mistake and that a good best five average bodes well for the second half of the season. I have added in this explanation because I know how sharp eyed some of you are!

Finally many congratualtions go to @Monza who landed a good prediction for the Bolton game and continues to hold the best single prediction of the season so far with the single person miss for the Barnsley home game.

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After the Luton Away Game - Match 22

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Many congratulations again to @DevC for retaining the position at the top of the Leaderb0ard and to @Monza for continuing to have the best single prediction of the season so far despite a near miss by @LDF for this match. Congratulations to @LDF on a hew personal best.

Nobody else beat their personal best and nobody reached a new high spot in the table, I reckon that is because a fair few had reasonable scores, hence lots of less dramatic movements.

At the top @a40 and @williwycombe swopped places, but it is still very close. @williwycombe needs to be more than just 4 people closer to the Plymouth attendance than @a40 and be closer than their 10th best score of 159 to swop back. @DevC leads still by just under the equivalent of six points.

There are a whole lot of people with scores in the 120 to 130 range all close together and the same applies around the 160 mark.

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After the Plymouth Away Game - Match 23

None of the top three registered a prediction close enough to score and therefore that group remains unchanged. Many congratulations to @DevC who maintains a solid lead at the top.

Congratulations of the first order to @ChipsintheAdams who leapt into 4th from 9th on the Leaderboard and in doing so reached a highest position in the table so far this season as well as reaching a score below one hundred within the first half of the season. It is a quirk of the scoring system that it is very now slightly easier for @ChipsintheAdams to catch @DevC than it is for @a40 because of higher possible discards with perfect predictions. The possibility is there for both of them within the next two games - the difficulty is acnieving the perfect predictions.

Congratulations too to the other two big climbers - @Twizz who also reached heights not yet experienced this season and unsurprisingly Forecaster of the Week @MFHBlue whose match score of just two is a new personal best for @MFHBlue and could remain the second best individual prediction of the season.

Many congratulations to @Monza who does still have the best individual prediction of the season so far.

Finally congratulations to @shitcagowwfc and to @Ozzie_the_Relaxed for new personal bests fo the season so far.

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After the Cardiff Home Draw - Match 24

Many congratulations to @DevC who continues top of the Leaderboard.

The chasing bunch is increasing in number and on this occasision has moved slghtly closer.

Congratulations to @Commoner who now sits second, for the first time this season and to Forecaster of the Week @NewburyWanderer who has returned to third place with the miss of just two for the Cardiff game, congratulations there for the new personal best for the season. Both these forecasters joined the prestigous sub 100 club this week.

@Commoner can reach a sub 50 score with perfect predictions over the next two games and with a repeat of this week’s miss of just two @NewburyWanderer could reach a score of a fraction above 50 so @DevC’s lead has been cut to to the equivalent of five points from what was only mathematically not six points.

Congratulations to the two forecasters who recorded new highest position in the table this match - @MFHBlue and @Alexo. @Alexo managed a giant leap up the Leaderboard as did @PJS so caontraultions to @Pjs and double congratulations to @Alexo.

There are two tight groups on the Leaderboard currently 2nd to 5t - the leading edge of the group chasing @DevC is very tight indeed. Also there as a closely grouped cluster around the 200 score mark.

Happy predicting for the Wimbledon game. The thread will be up soon.

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After the Rare Wimbledon Home Win - Match 25

Many congratulations to @DevC again for keeping top spot, this week again with a slight erosion of the size of the lead. Congratulations to @williwycombe for regaining second place - all four of the chasing bunch could now be said to be 5 points behind @DevC as they all could catch Dev over two matches with perfect or near perfect predictions. It is very tight within that chasing group - @Commoner dropped one place despite recording a new personal 10th best score.

Not many forecasters did beat their existing 10th best score so there are some sizeable leadps up the table.

Congratulations to @LDF who moved up from 18th to 11th with a match score of144 and to @micra who moved up from 26th to 20th with a match score of 106.

Congratulations to @Loakes whose 10th prediction of the season was the best of the ren. A very fine prediction to rejoin the Leaderboard.

Finally many congratulations to @Monza who still has the best single forecast of the season so far.

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After the Rare Away Win at Northampton:

One of the best weeks ever for predicting. With the current season only Wimbledon away rivals it for the number of personal best predictions. Lots of plaudits all round to read all about

I will start with congratulations to six forecasters who this match improved their personal best for the season. In reverse order of match day score, rather than position on the leaderboard. Congratulations to @MindlessDrugHoover [with a match day score of 33]; @Robin [mactch 19 score 19]; @SmiroludyBlue [Match day score 11]; @our_frank and @Commoner [both with 7] and last but not least @micra [with a Match score of just six].

Mid table there is

Many congratulations to @DevC who, as predicted, stays at the top of the Leaderboard. His lead is safe for at least another match. However, despite his own personal 4th best score of the season [match day score of 24], the lead which was just under 30 in score terms aand the equivalent of 5 points in football league terms] after the Wimbledon game has been cut, by @Commoner [with a match day score of 7 + a large previous 10th best discard] to just under 20 in score terms, and 4 points in football terms.

@williwycombe loses a place to third but keeps pace with the top and remains roughly 5 points off @DevC.

Congratulations to both @our_frank and @wwfcblue for reaching the select Sub 100 Club early in the season and I have just realised that @DevC is due credit for attaining the elite Sub 50 Club remarkably with 20 matches to go.

@our_frank in fourth now heads the rest of the close chasing bunch down to @ChipsintheAdams in eight place on the Leaderboard, they are all six to seven points behind @DevC.

Congratulations to @LDF- now in 9th; to @FromeBlue - now in 11th and to our new Forcaster of the Week @micra - now in 13th who all reached their highest spots on the Leaderb oard so far this season. Congratulations to both @FromeBlue and @micra for making giant leaps to get there.

Above and around mid table there is a large group around the 130 score mark, future excitement is almost guaranteed.

Finally, despite the large number of close-ish, close and very close predictions, many congratlations to @Monza who still has the honour of having made the best single prediction so far thsi season.

Posh prediction thread up soon, good luck to all forecasting the numbers who will come to appreciate our cheap and hopefully cheerful Community Day.

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After the rare home defeat to Peterborough - Match 27

Many congratulations to @DevC who keeps position at the top of the Leaderboard and shaves around 4 points off his Leaderboard score with a P’boro Matchday score of 40.

@Commoner, stays second on the Leaderboard shaving a smilar amount of his Leaderboard score.

@williwycombe holds onto third place as @ChipsintheAdams returns to 4th in the chasing bunch and just stays clear of @wwfcblue. The gap between @ChipsintheAdams and @wwfcblue is just a single predicted person. The pair of them are now around 6 ‘football points’ off the top of the table.

As well as to @ChipsintheAdams, congratulations go to @FromeBlue and @MFHBlue who all reached personal high spots on the Leaderboard.
The two big leaps up the table this match were achieved by @Erroll_Sims and @MFHBlue.

There were also two forecasters who had new personal best predictions, neither of them on the main Leaderboard yet. Unsurprisingly @KeithBarrettsTache is there with his first prediction as is @Ozzie_the_Relaxed with a seventh prediction. Ten predictions take a forecaster onto the main Leaderboard.

Finally many congratulations to @Monza who has the best single individual predcition of the season so far for the Barnsley away game, where the forecast was out by just the one person.

The Wigan home game attendance prediction thread is up. Happy predicting to all.

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So once @railwaysteve updates for last nights game, we will be 63% of the way through the season. The table will show me still with a good lead but I am far from convinced that tells the true story. I wonder if its possible without excessive work if @railwaysteve could also post a table of positions for current top six predictions. I reckon there will be virtually nothing in it between me, @NewburyWanderer @wwfcblue and @Commoner with a fair few only a few points behind. You would expect all of us to score a few more low scoring predictions between now and the end of the season and discard some of our current higher top ten predictions. I reckon currently Steve’s excellent competition is really close.

I did my manual calculations last night and you are still miles ahead @DevC Myself now in third and @NewburyWanderer @our_frank @williwycombe @ChipsintheAdams are still at least four good predictions (40 to 80 away) behind you without you scoring again. Us five sit 23.9 to 27.2 points behind you with @Commoner still 17.3 behind, two strong (30 to 50 away) predictions might see him catch you.

My top six average just over 33 and my four others are well in to the 100’s

I suspect low 30’s will win it this year

I’m just delighted to be in the top-half tbh. I’m definitely having a ‘Nottingham Forest’ type season and will likely start to fade. Hats off to you, @DevC , Mr. Consistent.

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I think the reality is a little different to the headline figures. I think there are four , five maybe six predictors whose top six scores are roughly level. I am ahead only because by 7th-10th scores are better than others. But with 40% of the season left at least one probably most of those top six will produce four scores over the remainder better than my 7th to 10th scores which means those 7th -10th scores will end up being irrelevant. Our 1-6th place scores currently will end up being part of our top 10 at the end of the season, our current 7-10th probably wont. Which means I think that 1-6 currently matter, 7-10 really dont.

Ha. Just looked at this part of the Gasroom for the first time today.

My spreadsheet already has a column for the average of each persons best five predictions - here is a screenshot of the top of that column. It is in Leaderboard order - ie average of the best ten predictions. The middle column is just a unique number to help with sorting.

This is before putting in the results from last night ….

The competition will stay as best ten over the season, but @DevC is absolutely correct when he says that if you only consider the best five or six predictions, the top five forecasters are very very similar. @DevC ‘s 6th to 10th best predictions are noticeably better than those in his chasing group.

If people are interested I can post more data once I have done last night’s updates and started the thread for Saturday.

Yes please @railwaysteve.
Absolutely right that the comp should be over best ten as (very well in my view) designed.
If it were over best 15 over season, I would feel I had a big lead at present. As it will be over best 10, I think five or six of us are roughly equal in practise

I think the biggest barrier to catching you is the away games we have left are against some of the teams with the largest gates, we are yet to play 7 of the largest 12 attended teams, making accurate forecasting that much more difficult when the average attendance of those seven is 14272.

I don’t know about others but my top 10 normally has 7 or 8 home attendances and we only have 8 home games left with 10 away.

After the Wigan at Home Game - Match 28

Many congratulations to @DevC who continues to head the Leaderboard with a lead which is unassailable over the course of a single game.

My analysis is that he has a approximate 4 point lead over @commoner in 2nd, with @wwfcblue a further point below that leading a group also containing @NewburyWanderer., @our_frank, @williwycombe and @ChipsintheAdams - all 5 points off the top and all five of them just separated by goal difference.

@A40 in 8th is the highest placed player who cannot mathmatically take the lead over the next two games and then there is almost a three point gap to another group with hopes of a playoff place lead by @Erroll_Sims. @Erroll_Sims cut nearly ten points from his score this week to become the ninth member of this season’s Sub 100 Club. it is mathmatically possible of nearly everyone below @Erroll_Sims who is in the top part of the table to join this select group with a good prediction next game.

In the group around the top of the Leaderboard @wwfcblue deserves congratulations for reaching a personal high point for the season so far at 3rd.

The same congratulations for a personal highspot are due to @MFHBlue in 11th and to @MindlessDrugHoover now in 16th.

Congratulations for personal best predictions for the season so far go to Forecaster of the Week @glasstotallyfull [3], to @shitcagowwfc and @OxfordBlue, both with a match score of [10].

Many congratulations to @Monza whose single person miss prediction for the Barnsley away remains unmatched and undefeated as the best individual forecast for the season so far, despite the recent deluge of very close calls.

Happy predicting to all for the tough Mansfield away fixture.

Any in depth anaylsis of various propects for the run in may have to wait until after the Mansfield game. I have a bottle of Duoro to share this evening and a visit to my mothers tomorrow morning.

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After the Mansfield Away Game - Match 29

Many congratulations to @DevC who maintains a fairly comfortable lead at the top of the Leaderboard on a week when all the current top three shaved a handful off their total score.

The top five can all be at the top within two games and those in 6th to 8th places are in a very tight bunch just a fraction away from that possibility. @williwycombe in 6th and @ChipsintheAdams in 7th are separated by a single predicted person.

Congratulations to @bookertease for his long distance leap up to 10th place from 17th. @bookertease and @LDF in 11th are also separated by only a single predicted person.

Unusually we also have a tie for 21st place where @thecatwwfc and @robin have indentical scores.

Nobody reached a new high spot on the Leaderboard, however congratulations to @Ohandybaird who recorded a new personal best prediction for the season for Mansfield away.

Many congratulations again to @Monza who holds onto the honour of having the closest individual prediction fo the season.

I might well have an opportunity to take an indepth look at @devC’s chances of holding off the chances group runing the remaining 17 matches. If so I will post on this thread.

Please watch out for the Doncaster home attendance prediction thread.

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Data for Analysis of the Run In - Attendance Prediction

Here is a presentation of the current ‘Best ten Predictions’ for @DevC and those in the closest chasing bunch.
Everyone in the chart below would catch @DevC with two perfect predictions over the next two matches, so long as @DevC was further away than 69 for both.

The highlights in blue shows who has the best prediction in each column.

The highlights in yellow are the numbers over a hundred.

The column at the end is the actual score, the one which counts in the competition.
The three columns to the lift of that are for the averages of each person’s 5 best predictions, 6 best predictions and 7 best predictions. We are currently somewhere between 6/10ths and 7/10ths through the season, 63% - very close to two thirds of the way.

There is an argument that if people repeat their form of the first two thirds of the season, a reasonable good of their final score would be somewhere between their current ‘best 6 average’ and ‘best 7 average’.

Single digit scores are obviously the best at reducing a forecasters Leaderboard score - they all count as less than one towards it. However they aren’t easy to obtain. There have been a total of 15 so far this season, six of those are in the chart above and only @LDF, @Monza and @NewburyWanderer have two. I think recent games have produced more than their fair share

A single really good prediction would alter the chart and the Leaderboard substantilally and two by the same forecaster would change it dramatically.

I can see routes upwards for all of the chasing six. It is true that the ‘best five’ scores are fairly comparable - indeed they are identical for @wwfcblue and @DevC. Also @DevC does not have a monopoly of the very close and single digit scores.

My conclusion is that @DevC has a commanding but not unassailable lead. I reckon any one of the chasing bunch of six would be close if out of the remaining seventeen games, they record scores that are 60 or less, if out of those five a couple of them are single digit or close to that.

For the Mere Mortals agmonst us:

@bookertease showed last match that it is possible to leap seven places up the table to be ‘Wycombe distance’ from tne critical places and @micra’s form can vary like the weather, a brilliant spell in the spring would consolidate his handful of close predictions.

@Monza can only be beaten to the best individual prediction by a spot on forecast, and they are always possible.

My own target is to try and finish in the top half of the Leaderboard and have a sub 100 score before the games at the end of the season start to become less predictable - as Wyombe climb the table and the possibility of reaching the playoffs increases. :smiley:.

Happy predicting to all.

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Thanks for this @railwaysteve . Lot of interesting work there

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