Exactly this. And presumably these days most clubs make use of “data” in some shape or form.
It’s not just old blokes in big coats scouting players.
And surely every club have different metrics for the data. Otherwise we’d all he after the same.players!
Not only Hendo, but Hagelskjær showed he can pick a pass or two from deep as well.
I caught the twitter highlights, as only watched part of second half.
I can see why the GK wasnt sent off, Fred was going away from goal. I’m sure I’ve seen that as a reason previously.
I do think Henderson is a really good player, and the Anders pass for Fred’s goal was superb. He is clearly a very good player, the sort probably better at a higher level than the up and under of league 1.
Both players came from leagues of a better calibre than League One and it shows
I’ve a friend in Glasgow who said Henderson looked good and promising with Celtic. Said good signing. He seems to be getting better each game.
Completely agree!
Yes, but If the keeper doesn’t bring him down he has an open goal.
It was still a bizarre call to me and the whole block I was in. Like genuine shock.
However, at least we didn’t need to be against 10 to win so comfortably. As the Huddersfield game probably didn’t end as comfortable without the early red.
(Playing devil’s advocate, as in real time it would look clear cut)
On replay he may have overhit it, which would have brought thr covering defender back nearer the line.
But, I think that’s what gave the ref the chance to bail out on such a big call. Especially after not sending off Norris, which was correct.
It looks like a red, but can maybe see why not, basically.
That’s the moment of impact - definite red. Fred’s knocked it past him and easily gets there if he’s not impeded.
Yep, I thought it was an absurd decision at the time and still do having seen many highlights. At least it didn’t matter!
If you look at the reply tho, Fred’s direction is going towards the corner flag, not the goal and his touch was too heavy which would have closed down his goal-scoring angle by the time he caught up to the ball.
If anything, Norris’ yellow card was more certainly a red. It could be seen that Norris physically stopped & pulled down the striker while making very little attempt to “play the ball”. The striker was closer to goal, his touch was more measured, it was clear that his next touch would have been a shot against 2 outfield players.
Now, I don’t know if the referee was playing evens or not. If he had shown Norris red, he would have had more pressure / expectation on him to dismiss the Orient keeper.
At the end of the day, did it affect the game or result? No. Was Fred injured from the foul? No.
(Again, not saying i didn’t think a red)
Google says:
Fouls: The offense must be a direct or indirect free-kick offense.
Distance: How far is the offense from the goal?
Likelihood of control: How likely is the attacking player to gain or maintain control of the ball?
Direction of play: Is the attacking player moving towards the opponent’s goal?
Other defenders: Are there other defenders who could reasonably get back to stop the attack?
So direction of play is an impact and he is going away from goal, which brings in another defender potentially.
I would still think red, but don’t think its clear cut, also I don’t think I know the rules for many fouls anymore.
It’s a funny old game, as just a weeks ago quite a few of us were praying for the Jan window to come around to get new recruits on board.
Just two/three weeks later and we are now rejoicing in the skills of Henderson and Anders plus the contributions of Woodrow, Bell, Fred etc.
Even if you take Fred out (which the keeper did), it’s arguable that Woodrow is about the same distance from the ball as the covering defender, when contact from the keeper is made, and indeed he collects the ball on the edge of the penalty area about 6 yds from the goal line.
To immediately blow for the foul rather than let it continue the referee stops any potential advantage. It was terrible from the official’s regardless of what colour card he gives.
To be honest, the attacking line is now starting to click and we are getting players like Fred to perform when they were missing under Dodds. Our form is one of the best in the league and it looks like we’ve taken off the hand-brake and attacking with freedom
Unless of course Rice, Bloomfield or Morley told Commoner directly or maybe all three did.
It’s in the past, though Dan Rice is still involved here.
The most important thing is we now have a manager who seems to be getting the best out of some of our new signings.
Yesterday was brilliant and AP has a real buzz about it again. Long may it continue.
On a separate note to the ref’s contentious decisions not to send off either keeper, Dan Casey’s anticipation to position himself in preparation to clear off the line not long after he put us 3-1 up was fantastic. Completely unspectacular and unglamorous, but absolutely ensured we had the psychological advantage of carrying our two-goal lead into half time.
Considering the pelters he got for his mistake leading to conceding the penalty, it’s only fair we give him credit for an outstanding piece of defending.
Yep. Totally agree. Also wish to call out Grimmer’s goal-saving tackle which was similar in nature.
It was a brilliant bit of defending. Hopefully more of the players will emerge from the shadow of Dodds and prove to be better signings than they have looked.
Port Vale are struggling so let’s hope for another good display next Saturday and continue this fantastic run.
Yes it’s in the past.Also if one of them did tell him then we still have to take his/her word for it on a forum,not even knowing who he/she even is.
Not exactly compelling is it.
