https://x.com/scoutingww/status/1970045367795458410?t=Hpc9-KsZFnhiCEYBnlaXyw&s=09 Someone has been on drugs
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This was posted earlier in the Dodds Sacked thread
Itâs a bit like when Bloomfield was manager and some fans and managers still spoke about our style as if it was under Gaz.
Counter-attacking and full of goals with an average PPG of <1 in total.
The data might be right on one of thoseâŚ
Had Wycombe performing way above expectations last year.
Yeah right, and my granny can still run under 10 seconds for the 100m.
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We had such an incredible first half of the season, we seemed to stay right in amongst it for ages after despite never seeming to win a game.
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I have no doubt we would have made a better fist of it if Bloomfield had stayed.With the loss of Morley and Harvie (and if you allow for Koneâs loss of form to be at least in part due to his injury) I think it would have been via the playoffs if we had gone up.
Like you say,we also seemed to stay top for ages without winning so we were also riding our luck.
If, as I (and presumably everyone else) hope, Duff does succeed with this squad of players*, I think it should provide enough evidence to show just how poor a coach/manager Dodds is/was.
If it does, it is probably worth reminding ourselves that despite having an inept coach/manager, three games from the end of the season we were still in an automatic promotion place.
Given that I think it is reasonable to conclude that even a half decent coach/manager would have had a better return than Dodds by this point, I really struggle to understand why people are so reluctant to think that if Bloomfield had stayed or we had got a competent coach/manager in to replace him we wouldnât have gone up automatically.
*If Duff canât do anything with the players he has, I will accept that Dodds may not have been quite as hapless as my eyes and the statistics and results suggested.
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Duff has already shown his tactical genius. Pick 11 players in the first game to get a ânew manager bounceâ and in the second game pick 11 different players to get another ânew manager bounceâ
Will it work a third time?
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Canât recall the last time I looked forward to a match with such excitement as Iâm looking forward to Saturday.
Certainly wasnât the playoffs.
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Oh, @bookertease I feel slightly guilty now about my reference to you on the league cup thread.
Donât be! I know exactly what I am like and why I am like it.*
*I should stress that my pessimism really only extends to Wycombe Wanderers Football Club. Normally i am a happy, contented, reasonably balanced soul.**
**Other than when i have to pay for a beer or two in LondonâŚ.
Never mind all the wittering on this thread.
Whereâs the âeâ on the end of extrodinaire gone in the title?
And yes weâre allowing that the actual word is extraordinaire anywayâŚ
The reason I think this is that Wrexham hit the required form over their last three games including beating Charlton 3-0. Also we had visibly started to show signs of being less effective without Morley before Bloomfield left.Bloomfiled would have also had to deal with Kone being out for a month and then a week due to illness. Then Harvie got injured (which would have also effected MB).These two players were hugely influential earlier in the season.
Finally Bloomfiled won only 1 game in 17 during a period the season before,he has won 11 out of 31 since joining Luton (which is only marinally better than Dodds record with us). He is a good manager but he isnât Klop and he doesnât have a magic wand.
I think we would have had a far better chance in the playoffs under Bloomfield because Dodds proved to be so bad in the end. We may well have made the autos but I doubt it . Nobody can say for sure anyway and this includes me. All of this is history now and we have entered a new chapter in our history.
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My point is slightly different. If Dodds was as poor a manager/head coach as most of us now think, he was a poor manager from the time he took over until the time of the table i posted - i.e 3 games from the end of the season. A less poor manager (Bloomfield or AN Other - or even Trev!) would almost certainly (by virtue of being better) have achieved a higher points return during this period and we would have been several points clear of Wrexham at that point.
The unknown there is if Dodds was as bad as it now (and to some of us always has) appears. Seeing how Duff performs with the same set of players should give us as good an answer as we could reasonably expect.
I remember with this debate a month or two ago, you believed that Bloomfield would have had to cope with the loss of form of so many players if he had stayed. I am interested to know whether you now think (as some of us always have) that this loss of form may have been directly related to Dodds ineffective management/coaching?
I think it happened because Dodds is a f#cking terrible coach and Rice is an absolute fraud for hiring him. Itâs ok James, Rice doesnât control the gasroom.
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I understand your point and there is some merit to it however we just cantâ know. I have no doubt that the drop off in form was in part down to players becoming dissolusioned and losing confidence. With what we have seen this season you have to attribute the Dodds affect for some of that for sure.
Itâs a long season though and you canât rule out some of the factors I have raised as having a damaging effect on a resident Bloomfield. Losing Morley was clearly huge whoever was in charge. As was losing Kone for over a month.
This is in no way a defence of Dodds,he was crap. I have no doubt we would have been in finer fettle in the playoffs with MB. Kone lost his form,this may well have been in part down to Dodds but he had also been injured. He looked back to his old self in the pre season and this was still under Dodds.
As Bloomfield is currently showing the worm can turn for anyone and if he doesnât get some results soon he will get sacked. I know itâs not the same situation and I get your theory that being above Wrexham with a better manager we may have got accross the line but funny things happen in football.
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Thanks - I do appreciate the reasoned response (and ultimately as you say âwe just canât knowâ)
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Roll up
Thatâs an invitation
Roll up for the Mike Doddsy Tour
Roll up
To make a reservation
Roll up for the Mike Doddsy Tour
The Tragical Misery Tour
Is waiting to take you down
Waiting to take you down
I think Rice is guilty of changing too many things too quickly and I think he should be more communicative and appear before the fans more often.I also think he should have signed Morley at all costs and that the politics between he and Bloomfield could have even been a factor in it not happening.I also think he has made a hash of making sure we had enough in the striker dept knowing Kone would leave.
As far as hiring Dodds is concerned I think calling him a fraud is a little strong. He is no more of a fraud than Beeks(or whoever owned Wycombe at the time) was when they signed Tony Adams or Alan Smith. Bâham signed a coach with less first team experience than Dodds and it worked for them. Rice got it wrong. He appears to have now got it right.
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