Leaving aside race, religion (and to a certain extent politics) one of the ‘trends’ I have found most depressing and repulsive in recent years is the concept of the manosphere.
Admittedly I haven’t done much in the way of research but anecdotally (and from the horses mouths - I do voluntary work with young people) the shift in attitude of boys towards girls and women this past 5 years or so is shocking and societally damaging (in my opinion)
He was the second most entertaining person on here. Kicking him out just shows what a bunch of old fuddy-duddies the Gasroomers are.
And your point is? Customs 2000 years ago in Judea do not relate to the UK today. This just looks like trying to make an excuse to me! Judge actions by the time and the place, not today’s standards.
Yes. Let’s see if we can have a long conversation about that one; without anybody mentioning the elephant in the room 
The story of and the celebrations around the pregancy of child of 12 year old is still celebrated today, isn’t it? Every year in fact. We’ve just descided to edit out the unpalatable bit. Its a key aspect to the entirity of christianity and is as important today as it is important to those that also like remind people that Mohammad married a child.
TLDR is the people that throw stones, shouldn’t live in glass houses.
I’ll bite, what’s the elephant?
What’s this got to do with the grooming gangs?
If you’re struggling to read or understand, I can point you towards a tutor.
That Mary was 12 is conjecture, not fact. Historians assume she was between 12 and 17, based on the customs of the day. It is recorded in the Hadiths that the prophet (peace be upon him) married Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) when she was six, and the marriage was consummated when she was nine.
The bible also says the earth was created before the stars and the sun so I think we can move on from religious texts being sources of literal truth
condescension - the fallback position when shown that your point is totally invalid!
I think we’re at the point where your confidence is exceeding your understanding.
You asked him about the age of consent and when he said something more general, you said what’s that got to do with the age of consent question. Now you are asking what his more specific answer has got to do with the more general topic.
Just reflecting on this. No one had mentioned Mohammad. Are you saying that an event that may or may not have happened 2000 years ago, means that people should not question the actions of rape gangs and the age of their victims?
Let’s go straight to the elephant as it appears to be hiding from me
(Ah. I think I may have glimpsed it. And - mixing metaphors - that’s another can of worms…
We’re discussing the grooming gangs and what, if anything, being Muslim has to do with them. Yak’s response was basically “what about Christians?” Brilliant. What does that have to do with the Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs being discussed?
How many Christians were involved in these particular grooming gangs? Everyone is aware that other religions, cultures and institutions can be criticised too. The problem is that every time this topic comes up, the conversation immediately gets diverted into “what about this group?” or “what about that religion?”
Fine, we can discuss those topics as well. But they’re separate discussions. I’m talking about the grooming gangs and a modern-day issue that actually happened.
It was condecension because I literaly explained the ironic parrallel in ages of victims in the previous post.
No. Thats not what I actually said at all.
So Mary was a victim? Interesting viewpoint on what was the acceptable norm at the time.
It has everything to do with holding everyone to the same standard. People are happy to turn a blind eye to it if its happening, or indeed celebrate it, on their side. But when the “other” side does it, they jump up and down and complain.
Men have used there influence and power over children, In christianity, in Islam, in Catholocism and i am sure you can find examples where ever you look today, last decade, 50 years ago, 100 years ago and thousands of years ago.
But when you want to attack the specific group you don’t like you make hay, but then you constantly find reasons to dismiss it when it happens within communities you are sympathetic to.