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“A ‘Home-Grown Player’ means a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).” - EFL Services (n.d.) 6635f090-0699-11f1-9aba-51a01a165b29. Available at: **https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/gc-media-assets.gc.eflservices.co.uk/6635f090-0699-11f1-9aba-51a01a165b29.pdf
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League One Clubs must have a minimum of 8 home grown players over 21

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With regards to Norris, I think it was very telling that Duff didn’t play him in the last game of the season. Almost like he’s already told the club he’s leaving. Fred played because we had very few options up front, if we had more available, I’m not sure he would have featured

I know there were questions about his attitude, but i hope we give Berry a good look in pre-season. Hopefully a year older and wiser he’ll be able to contribute.

Oh god I’m getting old!

I can confirm I meant to say Duff. And yep a completely senior moment.

My reasoning is that he continued to pick him (and also that he’s been offered a new contract - albeit we don’t know any details but if he didn’t rate him at all I’m not sure we would have offered him anything

We don’t even know if it was one of those appearance based trigger clauses in his existing contract, do we?

Not a very nice way to put it but it seems entirely plausible that Michael Duff regarded him as the least of the evils!

If there’s terms in a contract to trigger an extension, it’d already be sealed surely?

Instead of worded as being offered a contract.

The assumption is the manager / Rice gang rate him and want him to stay. The idea we are either offering him a poor deal to be 2nd choice or even sillier offering a poor deal so he can use it as collateral elsewhere are what the kids I believe would call “copium”.

Best bet is another foolish club storming in with a higher value offer and luring him away.

Never thought of him as alluring or lurable.

Durable perhaps but not curable.

To put it more in words you’d understand then we need another club to…

Giz bruv biggerly wad.

As I understand it, what gets triggered is the offer of an extension, not an automatic extension. The player still has to agree to it.

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Would imagine it depends completely how the contract is written

There will be scenarios where the club chooses whether to extend it.

Personally don’t think any of this applies to our situation, I’d think it’s a straight forward new contract offer.

If there’s an extension clause in the contract, the club can’t choose not to. That’s what a contract is.

I’m saying a club and player can agree an initial contract but the club can then have the sole decision to trigger an extra year. That scenario doesn’t rely on the player giving an extra agreement bar the initial contract they signed.

If there is a written agreement in a contract then it’ll be triggered by 2 things automatically.

  1. The club can trigger an automatic extension. Most of the time, its a year extension but for youth players, it can be up to 3yrs and the terms, conditions & wage will remain the same. The club and player can negotiate increases if they want to.
  2. A contract’s term is automatically extended if conditions have been met in the last year of their contract. Appearences, goals, assists etc

So limited data as to his own strengths or weaknesses then? Just the number of clean sheets the team have collectively earned.

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If the club had said “The offer of a contract extension has been triggered, based on appearances, and Norris is still deciding whether to accept the terms or not”, could we agree that’s a possibility?

I think that’s all that’s being suggested here.

I think we all know that’s bloody wishful thinking and instead know deep down that he’s just been offered a straight forward separate new deal.

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If that’s true then I suspect he’s looking into 1) The cost it would take to buy him out & 2) That he knows he has a deal somewhere else before making that decision

However, I’m with @Malone. He’s either hoping another club will offer him a deal or has signed another deal and he’s signed an NDA with them, he’s keeping the club & public in the dark

Could be several factors involved in why Norris has not signed ..

  1. It’s actually a new offer as he was out of contract, and it’s a low ball offer from us

  2. Simply playing hard ball for a better offer from WWFC

  3. Already has an offer elsewhere and he’s playing one against the other

  4. Has no intent on signing for WWFC because the fans have pissed him off

(There may be more)

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I really hope Norris doesn’t sign a contract…he’s just not good enough imho.

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