The Rice Out thread

Seems a little unfair to have so many “Dodds out” threads while the one person responsible for destroying our season gets none. If he stays we’re fucked. He’s woefully unqualified for the job he’s doing and a walking illustration of Dunning-Kruger.

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Seconded! Of everyone, he is the most responsible for robbing us of a dream season.

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I know you have blocked me so you won’t answer it, and I know I’m a broken record on this, but what exactly has Rice done - singularly, of his own accord and without backing or joint input from the other/rest of the senior leadership team - that actually means he is the only one that deserves to be fired?

While I actually wouldn’t call them Russians, I’m probably with Henning Wehn on the whole “deciding to get rid of blooms” thing (and then subsequently hiring Dodds)

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He is the Chair and Chief Football Officer, he has to take responsibility for decisions the football club has taken.

Failed to retain a young, successful manager with a strong connection to the club and its ethos.

Poor recruitment in January, particularly the two Danes who both broke the club record fee and have failed to break into the first team.

Poor head coach recruitment that took too long and resulted in an inexperienced head coach whose record is mixed.

Poor oversight of project management around the move of training ground to Harlington.

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Lomtadze is the puppet master. Eduard Vyshnyakov is ummmm the puppet organ grinder. Rice is the monkey. Dodds is the banana skin.

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Props for taking the high road and going with banana skin over chewing gum.

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My point is, I don’t think he is solely responsible for any of those. Edit - well, probably the signings to be to be fair. But I wouldn’t say they have all been poor.

He also isn’t responsible for being both chairman and CFO. Too many responsibilities in too many key areas for just one person? Maybe. Whose fault is that?

For the record, I would happily sack them all. We’d save a fortune in Excel subscriptions.

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Now, quoting myself because if he really has done all the things you mention, on his own and without with direction/agreement from the owner/rest of the leadership team he does, 100% deserve to be fired.

But I don’t think he has. I think he has worked to a brief.

If he’s doing what his bosses ask/expect him to do, does he deserve to be sacked?

If you are doing what your boss ask/expect of you, would you deserve to be sacked?

Just give then the jobs they can do. Rice in charge of the academy. Dodds in charge of coaching. Vyshnyakov as the secret CEO. Colin Baker as the pretend CEO who can do media stuff. Klopp as the manager.

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If you’re the Chair then you are responsible, otherwise what’s the point of having a Chair.

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To be the voice and day to day decision maker, based on the agreed vision and direction the owner wants.

So while the really horrible, unpopular things we all don’t like (I.e. forcing MB out) was done by him - if that was done because the ownership wanted it done - that’s on them not him.

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Rice’s Legacy

Moving us to an unsuitable training ground at great expense to the club and great detriment to the players

Alienating a club legend

Sabotaging a promotion bid

Turning a calm and happy fanbase into a divided one

Balthering on whilst he was pissing a million quid into the wind in January, but absent without leave after throwing an unsuitable but well meaning coach into the deep end.

GET HIM GONE

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Fuck me he’s quiet, eh? Still, can’t be his fault. He’s not actually doing anything cos Dan is.

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One tweet called him Russian and he shat the yurt

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From coach and player recruitment, to communications, to community engagement, and facilities management, I’d say the incomers have done a substandard job at best and everything feels, dare I say it, a little incompetent and chaotic. Of course, next season is the real litmus test, because a large part of the August-January success happened in spite of them, not because of them. My concern is that the club appears to be completely disjointed in function and design. Media and comms don’t seem joined-up anymore. The Foundation is the Foundation, and tbf has long been pretty much standalone for a while. And then there’s the Academy project, with more staff than you can throw a mega pack of Doddy’s Doublemint at. A much welcomed addition but not one that can be judged in the short-term so gets a free pass for now.

On media and comms, I genuinely fear that if/when the likes of messrs Cecil and Catchpole decide they’ve had enough, get pushed, or want a new challenge, the line goes dead. There simply wouldn’t be stuff like the presentation at HT today because there’d be no one around with those connections to organise and manage them, or even perhaps care.

Yes yes, there will be some who don’t agree and think the latter part (or maybe all) of this is sentimental, opinion-based pap. But as I said in a post a month or so back, we have a proud history of holding owners to account, for the betterment of WWFC. While that may cross the line sometimes as emotions run high, there are enough red flags for me to start questioning not just the intentions, but the credibility and qualifications of the people currently in charge…including Dan Rice, to keep this on thread.

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Shat the Yurt should be a the Name of a new independent podcast based on the last half of this season.

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“ we have a proud history of holding owners to account, for the betterment of WWFC”

I agree wholeheartedly.

That’s why I’m passionately trying to get people to blame all of them and not just one of them.

Where did the money come from that funded the squad which got us to the top end of the league in the first place?

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Of course the ownership are to blame too. But the ownership can’t leave without selling the club and who would buy it? Whereas Dan Rice could and should go.

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