Why?
As a scape goat?
Because the ownership will get it right with the next guy?
He came in with the ownership on day one and they are all as culpable for everything from May 2024.
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Because his job as chair and chief football officer is to get the things right that he has not. He isn’t an admin guy answering the phones, he’s a director and a senior exec. Taking responsibility comes with the territory (and the salary.)
We’re in the play offs!
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At the risk now of getting circular - if he is enacting the plan of what the leadership team as a whole want the club to do, and how it is run (and they would have have meeting upon meetings and plans upon plans on how they want to structure and run the club before the take over was complete) - from the owners perspective - he is doing the right thing.
Even if all of us don’t agree with it.
He’s not freewheeling it.
Well, he might.
And that really would be a failing of the owner for not communicating with us by now.
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I don’t think Rice is spending his own money, you don’t earn that much as a scout for kids football.
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Do we really? As a few lone posters on here, sure. But as a fanbase? There was no scrutiny of the Trust and the decisions they made. We rolled over and let Couhig tickle our collective bellies from the moment he put in a bid - he never faced difficult questions (other than maybe one in one fan’s forum which he shouted down and things moved on). When he departed most people bought his excuses and then made further excuses for him when he rocked up at Reading. And there haven’t exactly been protests at Harlington over the defenestration of Matt Bloomfield, no matter how much frustration and anger it caused on Gasroom 2.0.
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We actually have a proud history of not holding owners to account. All the way back to Beeks time as chairman.
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So what I’ve learned today is that:
- The players are not responsible, as the fans need to pick them up, and they don’t pick their own formation.
- Dodds is not responsible, as he got thrown in the deep end and the players are not following his tactics properly.
- Dan Rice is not responsible, because he is not the owner.
- Lommy is not responsible, because he spends loadsamoney.
I think there might be some clues to our cultural problems in the list above.
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They’re all responsible to a great or lesser degree. I’m amazed by posters suggesting that the players aren’t to blame.
My genuine question is who is above Dan Rice in the food chain? Our absentee owner doesn’t seem like he’s going to get involved.
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We know you believe our demise is fundamentally down to getting rid of Bloomfield by Rice. I would be interested on your take of what Bloomfield has done at Luton.
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I think he has done very well after a rough time getting bedded in, but ran out of games. Another 2-3 matches and they would have stayed up. I have tracked how he has done with their fanbase, and he utterly won over most of those with five fingers on each hand (so, Bob and his mate).
I am not saying he is Pep yet, but it is astounding how everyone is trying to revise a solid calendar year of top, top form and (by October) champagne football into some kind of fluke.
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To clarify, I am not saying 100% we would have gone up under Bloomfield (I do think losing Morley hurt us too, along with many others), but:
- We would have made a better go of it.
- We would have played a better style, with more tenacity.
- It would have been easier to forgive dropping into the playoffs as a result.
But to clarify my clarification, I do think we would have been automatically promoted with Bloomfield, or at least on course to until an asteroid with ‘Welcome to Wrexham’ written on it hit Adams Park today on 89 minutes.
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If I was Luton’s owner’s , I’m not sure I would be saying he’s done very well. Surely when they appointed him in January , they expected him to get Luton out of the relegation places.
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That’s their prerogative. I don’t think he can complain if he is sacked, because it is a merciless business, but you asked me what I thought. Context is important - Bloomfield had Luton playing much better than say, GA had QPR playing, but QPR had more of a buffer, and stayed up because of a Reading points deduction. QPR kept GA, Luton may well sack Blooms, and round the world goes.
GA gained 11 points from 13 games, which turned out to be enough.
Blooms gained 24 points from 20 games, including 21 from his last 12, and it was not enough. But those 21 in 12 would extrapolate out to 81 points over the course of a season, which is why I think he ran out of games.
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I do agree that he got them playing in the last games but he will be judged on all 20. You cannot just pick a sequence of games and extrapolate up.
Well, if the argument is that a manager was trying to bed in his style and ethos, an upward trajectory after a difficult initial period does support that.
Just my opinion.
The owners of which DR is a part of when they bought the club are thinking of years rather than the here and now. Yes in my opinion MD has been a disaster but he does fit their long term plans of developing players. We can huff and puff all we like but the owners and their selective individuals will not be going anywhere for quite some time, the best we can hope for is a good season next year with Dodds having us play exciting attacking football which seems unlikely, therefore should it go tits up I expect the owners to once again try for a Scandinavian coach.
Their staff hiring spree would suggest that they, including DR, have long term plans for the club and we just have to buckle up and hope it doesn’t go tits up
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We were the only team in the top 6 to have a mid-season managerial change. Maybe Bloomfield would of been tempted elsewhere regardless, but I’m confident we would of finished stronger with him at the helm
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People need to be careful what they are wishing for with this Rice out stuff. We could quite easily be in a similar situation to Reading if we are going to try and force this ownership group out. It’s early days in their management of the club, this is about the long term and if they get things right there could be some great times down the line for the club.
Dan Rice has never been a football chairman, he is absolutely going to make mistakes and will have to learn from them. All in all this season, which was labelled as a “development season” by the owners, has resulted in a successful campaign. Yes it promised so much more but that’s life.
There is a much bigger picture here which people should be taking into consideration.
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Bow down at the mercy of the billionaires!
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