The Rice Out thread

exactly , when he took the job they were NOT in the relagation job so has taken them down , saying that i would take him back in a heartbeat if he were to be available, under Dodds we are boring and negative

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I’m sure that’s part of Dodds’s brief, but the only player he has come close to blooding in the first team is Alex Lowry. James Berry was meant to be a
huge prospect and he’s barely featured. Precious few players look better than they were when Dodds took over, which doesn’t bode well for someone who was brought in for their strength as a development coach.

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None of our players look better since Dodds took over. Some of it is surely down to the fatigue of a long season, though it’s weird how the teams we play against don’t look to be suffering from that. Infuriatingly, several of our players look considerably worse since he took over. Kone is being asked to play a frustrating, lonely role up front and has barely scored since Dodds came in. Cam is being wasted in a role that’s he’s completely unsuited for and we’ve lost all the creativity that came with him being played in the ten. Joe Low has gone from being one of the best centre-backs in the division to sitting on the bench fuming. Even Scowen, the most reliable player in the squad, has lost his spark. And we’ve downgraded the goalie for some reason.

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In my opinion Rice is responsible for appointing such an inexperienced and negative coach. Dodds is responsible for his lack of management ability, inability to motivate the players and totally changing a successful style of play to the absolute dross that is now served up.
The players are not to blame as they seem totally bemused by what Dodds is telling them.
Lommy is not to blame (at the moment as he appointed Rice who had some footballing credentials at higher clubs and he is too busy making money elsewhere to be hands on.
Lommy now needs to appoint a proper experienced Director of Football (if necessary leave Rice to run the Academy and non football matters) and SACK Dodds immediately after the play offs. I would love to see Gareth as DofF but of course it won’t happen.

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It’s early days. I’d love to know what your suggestion is, drive them out and fold the club?

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It’s all a bit sad but I’m not (yet) at the level of disillusion and detachment I felt during Hayes last knockings.

Yes I am very much in the ‘they treated MB awfully’ camp (for which I do think DR has to be considered responsible) but we supporters (or customers or subscribers or whatever we are these days) are basically bystanders to someone’s long-term vision of which the football team (as opposed to the club) appears to be only part of the priority.

Why I am still (currently) on board with the long-term vision is that it does appear to be based on a model that is potentially sustainable for our club and (Reading-type issues in the back of my mind admittedly) I am reasonably hopeful of a being able to watch a moderately successful football league club as a Wycombe supporter for several years to come.

I must admit that the football is a quite hard watch at the moment (although the first 15 minutes of the second half yesterday was quite good) and I am personally not convinced that MD has the imagination or tactical nous to develop as a successful head coach.

But I do think he should be given the chance at the start of next season.

I think however the club (and probably the team as well) would greatly benefit if DR was gently shown the door over the summer.

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Dodds is so fucking hesitant , he must take 20 minutes to decide which leg goes first into his trousers.

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I doubt 100 or so posters on a football forum can drive anyone out. We could not get the toilets fixed.

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We couldn’t even get the christmas lights back on our own forum!

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Dear ML sack Rice and Dodds get Saint Martin to take the play offs with Vokes as his number two . Sorry about hennings joke but that’s all it was and thanks for the academy stuff which will go a lot better with someone else in charge.

Kind regards

Me

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Aaron Morley announced as Bolton’s Players Player of the Season. Hope you saw that Data Dan you wally

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Fair point. See @CornDog , it is possible for posters to have different views without resulting to insults.

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What, Lommy can’t be blamed because “he’s too busy”?

Give me strength.

I never like threads that call for anyone to lose their job, but here’s my pennies worth…

We have a football infrastructure that is closing it’s doors. Promoted Championship teams can’t compete in the Premier League, and we’ve experienced first hand the gap between League One and the Championship. When the stars align and the magic happens, you have to grab your opportunity with your team to get promoted. For me, it’s now or never for every team. ‘Data’ can help, but often it’s the combination of characters that make a squad winners and ultimately memorable. It’s the X factor (not the tv show) that makes a team go to the next level. I think back to the memorable Martin O’Neill team, and more recently Gareth Ainsworth’s playoff winning squad. Data can’t tell you that. It’s knowledge/luck/personality. The new management team don’t have that. Yet. They’re young, enthusiastic professionals at the beginning of their careers as top dogs in a football club. But they don’t have the experience yet. They are lacking the personality. And that comes with age, it’s not being negative towards them. It’s Dodd’s first job as number one. Rice has only managed youth recruitment and scouting, not expectations of a full football club.

I posted earlier this year and someone quite rightly pointed out “hindsight, right?” but I feel the mistakes this season obviously came in the winter. We were riding high. We all felt we were the best team in the land (side note, many teams never feel that during a season - credit to the lads for giving us that). Under our new structure, if you’re saying the ‘manager’ is less important, and the Chief Football Officer is king, then we should be able to handle a change of coach. Rice has to take some responsibility for our drop off. At our level of football, I disagree with this club structure. It’s an extra level of management that doesn’t add a thing. We were better than Wrexham this season. Yet when transfer time came around, Parkinson at Wrexham realised that they needed support upfront, and signed Sam Smith. We lost an important key in Morley, and decided to rectify it by signing as many def/midfield and Centre Backs as we could. And none of the players brought in have made an impression on the team (bar Taylor). We joke about it, but the danish transfers have been a no show. We had more money to spend than we have for the last decade, and we blew it. It doesn’t make sense. We officially have the best player in our league this season in Kone. Why didn’t we sign players to support and help him upfront, instead of getting rid of forward options (thinking of Hanlan)? These are the small differences between good and great players and teams. I dislike the attitude that certain players are too good and are going to leave, without proving themselves in the roles they are currently at. They need to show us for us all in the next few weeks to be called great. harsh, but fair, i think. It’s the difference between greatness and just turning up.

The run in told us where we stood. We played all the teams around us, and result wise were shown up. Don’t know current odds, but we must be least expected of the four playoff teams to go up. But I still believe. The squad have been great this season, and as always i wish and hope the best for them to finish the season. I hope they make it memorable. For us and personally for them.

So Rice / Dodds Out for me is a no. Even if we don’t go up this year. If they make the same mistakes next year, and the next, then obviously my view changes. Not that that matters :slight_smile:

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I don’t get the thought that promotion or first team success somehow hinders the long term academy vision. It seems like an excuse for flushing an amazing opportunity down the loo.

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the academy and the promotion conundrum troubles me too - i rewatched Dan’s first wycombe interview on the webthingy. He clearly states premier league as an objective. If the dream is to build an academy - then build an academy. Dont steal our dreams of a successful first team to do so, no?

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We’re in the play offs

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That is a fact.

Wow, the last time our position was so lowly was 5th October.

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